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winkfish
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Posted - 07/17/2012 :  5:05:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When you all fish the rigs out of Hopedale area, do you tie up to the rigs or anchor off of them a bit? Thanks!!

fishgill
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USA
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Posted - 07/18/2012 :  1:01:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I normally anchor. If you tie up with the current or wind (which ever is greater) will only give you a few spots to fish ( behind the boat ) down wind or current.. i have fished all sides of the rigs up current, down the sides and behind and found trout are in different locations near about every time. Keep you options open.. also the shock from a wave is very hard when you are tied directly to a rig. Need to have some shock cords( bungee type) to hold down the jerking of the boat..

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Secret Formula
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Posted - 07/18/2012 :  5:31:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Got to agree with Fishgill. When I would tie on we'd use a mooring snubber tied inline to absorb the shock, or I've also used a tire inner tube doubled up work very well also

Fret Not, today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday!
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winkfish
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Posted - 07/18/2012 :  6:10:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I do have a rig hook with a bungee snubber. I've seen guides tie up sometimes, and anchor sometimes. Do you generally try to be on the upcurrent or downcurrent side of a rig? I'd think the downcurrent side, cast to the rig, and bring it back?

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Capt Rory Rorison
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Posted - 07/18/2012 :  6:27:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Generally you want to be anchored up-current of the rig. On some smaller rigs you can tie up to them and cast around it to fish the up-current side. Sometimes they are on the down current side. That is usualy when you have a strong current and the fish are hiding out behind it.

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fishgill
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USA
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Posted - 07/19/2012 :  09:52:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If fishing live bait (Carolina rig) or slider cork, I always fish going down the current -- tight lined. This does not mean on the down side of the rig. I could be up current of the rig throwing into the rig, down the sides or directly behind the rig. There is no slack in the line and I can feel the bite better on pogies or shrimp. When I cast out, I throw down current and slowly bring the bait back to the boat (more of a lift and pull) then reel in the slack.

If fishing artificial it really doesn’t matter since you have to work the bait. I will try to explain the pattern I use when using plastic on the bottom (bounce, bounce, double jerk, bounce, bounce, triple jerk then repeat) and always experiment with different patterns. I have a fishing partner that swears if you use a popping cork you must pop it four times in a row the stop for 10 seconds. I’m not quite bought on that pattern yet--but she catches fish. One of these patterns will normally start producing fish. The key to me is to feel the bottom. Try and move the bait at least 6 to 12 inch with each movement of the rod. The lead head size is critical. Come prepared with different sizes jig heads up to a 1/2 oz. Any heavier than that the current is usually way too strong to fish artificial and I go to live bait tight lined.


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JOHN C
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Posted - 07/19/2012 :  11:21:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Secret Formula

Got to agree with Fishgill. When I would tie on we'd use a mooring snubber tied inline to absorb the shock, or I've also used a tire inner tube doubled up work very well also

Fret Not, today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday!

As Mike aka Secret Formula mentioned...damaged bike/bicycle tire inner tubes are easily accessible from any bike shop! John Castelluccio, Jr.

OLDER SUV and house, STILL HAVE new boat-'06 Avenger, Semi-retired-'08, soon to get "new-wife" BUT MAY CHANGE MY MIND and THEN 'MIGHT NOT BE' in debt for the rest of my life! Now & 4-ever!!! Been a memeber on R&R since 09-21-1999

Edited by - JOHN C on 07/19/2012 11:22:24 AM
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seabird
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Posted - 07/19/2012 :  1:38:09 PM  Show Profile  Send seabird a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
after reading these posts, i feel like i'm doing the hokey-pokey.

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winkfish
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Posted - 07/20/2012 :  10:19:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As usual, thanks for the advice (especially Seabird's hokey-pokey ). I love this site!!

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ed mcintyre
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USA
6855 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2012 :  6:39:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wink, I also anchor up stream and fish back to the rig. while I have never seen a speck diving at the rigs I have seen many species of fish and most of them like to be facing the current with the rig behind them and some are constantly circling the rig

when i die bury me deep, put a bucket of bait at my feet, put a rod and reel in my hand and i will fish my way to the promised land !!!! remember we did not inherit these resources from our parents, we are merely borrowing them from our children
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zzydeco
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USA
522 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2012 :  11:44:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was always afraid of anchoring up current and snagging something on the bottom. There's all kind of junk around the base of most rigs. I also made the mistake of tieing to the rope that the crew boats use. A crewboat captain decided to back up on top of me to teach me a lesson. This was a small rig and I did not think a crewboat would be visiting it that day. I was trying to cut the rope with this big ass boat coming at me in reverse. 100+ feet vs 18 feet.

I don't have a bucket list but my f-ucket list is a mile long.
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ed mcintyre
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USA
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Posted - 07/23/2012 :  6:33:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ZZ, I have hung up a few times by anchoring my way, and I have had to power off a few times. what I do is quickly rig a bridle at the stern and ty the anchor line there and power the anchor out. I have bent more than one anchor this way, but I also have a good sledgehammer for repairs.

when i die bury me deep, put a bucket of bait at my feet, put a rod and reel in my hand and i will fish my way to the promised land !!!! remember we did not inherit these resources from our parents, we are merely borrowing them from our children
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Secret Formula
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Posted - 07/23/2012 :  7:01:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I too have gotten hung up on occasions. Most of the time it seems to caught in cables on the bottom. Most of the time I've gotten off by power backing down and when you feel yourself gain ground (by lifting or pulling the cable out of the mud), quickly get off the power and come ahead. The cable drops straight down and the anchor glides a bit on the flukes and you're free. You may have to repeat the process but it works.

Fret Not, today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday!
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ed mcintyre
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Posted - 07/24/2012 :  10:30:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
those cables were shoved over the side when they re-cabled the Traveling Block. Depending on how deep they went they would re-cable at least one time on each well and they drilled about 20 wells from each spot, so that is alot of cable. but the cables do rust and disappear after a while

when i die bury me deep, put a bucket of bait at my feet, put a rod and reel in my hand and i will fish my way to the promised land !!!! remember we did not inherit these resources from our parents, we are merely borrowing them from our children
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Coffeepot Bill
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USA
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Posted - 07/28/2012 :  01:38:50 AM  Show Profile  Send Coffeepot Bill a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zzydeco

I was always afraid of anchoring up current and snagging something on the bottom. There's all kind of junk around the base of most rigs. I also made the mistake of tieing to the rope that the crew boats use. A crewboat captain decided to back up on top of me to teach me a lesson. This was a small rig and I did not think a crewboat would be visiting it that day. I was trying to cut the rope with this big ass boat coming at me in reverse. 100+ feet vs 18 feet.

I don't have a bucket list but my f-ucket list is a mile long.




HEY ZZ GOOD TO SEE YOUR AROUND AND STILL FISHING ... I WAS TAUGHT YOUR WAYOF ANCHORING AND NEVER HAD ANY TROUBLES .... MY FAVORITE PLACE IN THE GULF WAS THE IRIGS JUST EAST OF THE EMPIRE TO GULF CANAL ... AKA THE GREEN MONSTER AND TWO OTHERS NEAR IT ... I THINKIT IS KNOWN AS THE SANDY POINY RIGS ...

COFFEEPOT BILL
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zzydeco
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USA
522 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2012 :  2:12:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep still around and fishing as much as I can. I used to fish Block 63 out of Empire. It was guaranteed kings at that rig. It was 17 miles SSE of the rocks. Sometimes I used to follow the Miss Missippii out. That was some slow boat! I did not carry a radio, nor gps, just flares and a single outboard. I gave up rig fishing when I got stuck out there floating to Mexico with engine problems a couple of times. I still got my Penn reels in the garage just in case I ever get a bigger boat. I actually had a guy in a 14 foot flat tie next to me on that rig, Crazy!

I don't have a bucket list but my f-ucket list is a mile long.
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