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| GLYNN |
Posted - 03/12/2012 : 8:48:50 PM
How many will be bold enough to say you will vote for Obama again. No explanation needed.
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| Lookidat |
Posted - 06/11/2012 : 09:06:00 AM
Bueller..............Bueller................Bueller............hello, anyone out there? The silence is deafening..............
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| Lookidat |
Posted - 06/08/2012 : 11:56:09 AM
1.Obamas record in job creation? NONE
2. Labor Force Decline? Unemployment has only gotten worse since Obama took office.
3.Manufacturing Jobs? Obama has bent over backwards to FORCE corporations to knuckle under to Union Thugs. (See Boeing)
4.Experienced "below average" economic growth? Obamas record, and our current economy sum that up.
5.Piled on more dept than any other state? You can't be serious! Obama has increased the national dept at a rate 10 times higher and faster than in our history!
As far as Obamas credentials, he HAS NONE. His sole claim to fame was that as a junior senator, he was a good orator. Prior to that, he had never held a job in the private sector. As to his credentials since taking office:
1. Tripled our national dept.
2. Given away BILLIONS of OUR TAX DOLLARS in bailouts to his political supporters.
3. Appointed more "CZARS" (Non-elected positions) than any previous president.
4. Used Government agencies to bully political opponents.
5. In conjunction with his cronies, forced a health-care program down the throats of Americans, of whom MORE THAN 55% DO NOT WANT. A program that is already projected to cost twice what they claimed, and that they themselves did not even read, and fail to understand.
6. Continued virtually every Bush policy and practice that he criticized and promised to eliminate when he was running for the office. In some cases he has greatly expanded them.
7. Attempted to spend his way out of dept with the first American Reclamation Act, and in spite of it's obvious failure, now proposes a second round of the same!
I invited you to explain and/or defend the record of your candidate, and your entire response was simply an attack on the opposition. You and yours are resorting to the oldest political ploy there is. When you have no answers, and no good record on which to run, you simply attack the opposition in any way you can. This worked well for him last election, and look what we got. For the sake of our future, I sincerely hope that the voters aren't stupid enough to put him in again.
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| zzydeco |
Posted - 06/08/2012 : 10:59:27 AM
Here is Romneys record as Governor:
1. Ranked 47th in job growth: Despite Romney’s professed expertise in creating jobs, Massachusetts ranked 47th in job growth during his time as governor. The state’s total job growth was just 0.9 percent, well behind other high-wage, high-skill economies in New York (2.7), California (4.7), and North Carolina (7.6). The national average, meanwhile, was better than 5 percent.
2. Suffered the second-largest labor force decline in the nation: Only Louisiana, which was ravaged by Hurricane Katrina in 2005, saw a bigger decline in its labor force than Massachusetts during Romney’s tenure as governor. The US Census Bureau estimated that between July 2002 and July 2006, 222,000 more residents left Massachusetts for other states than came to it. That decline largely explains the state’s decreasing unemployment rate (from 5.6 to 4.7 percent) while Romney was in office, according to Northeastern University economics professor Andrew Sum. At the same time, the nation as a whole added 8 million people to the labor force.
3. Lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs: Massachusetts lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs during Romney’s time in office, according to Sum. The loss was double the rate that the nation as a whole lost manufacturing jobs. In 2004, Romney vetoed legislation that would have banned companies doing business with the state from outsourcing jobs to other countries.
4. Experienced “below average” economic growth and was “often near the bottom”: “There was not one measure where the state did well under his term in office. We were below average and often near the bottom,” Sum told the Washington Post in February. As a result, the state was more comparable to Rust Belt states like Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio than it was to other high-tech economies it typically competes with.
5. Piled on more debt than any other state: Romney left Massachusetts residents with $10,504 in per capita bond debt, the highest of any state in the nation when he left office in 2007. The state ranked second in debt as a percentage of personal income. Romney regularly omits those statistics from his Massachusetts record, instead touting the fact that he balanced the state’s budget (he was constitutionally required to do so). He wouldn’t be much different as president: his proposed tax plan adds more than $10 trillion to the national debt.
I think Obamas credentials stand on their own. I dont think they have classes on how to be president so they are all new to the job. Its the knowledge and humanity that makes the difference. I have said everything that I can say about this. I have enjoyed the political discussion, thanks. here is a link to factcheck to assist you in future postings.
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/obamas-bumbles/
I will give you the last word.
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| Lookidat |
Posted - 06/08/2012 : 09:21:54 AM
zzydeco, just for the fun of it, say I concede that Romney got his money by inheritance. He still got elected to lead a state, and has that experience to draw from. What experience or qualifications did Obama have? Do you honestly believe that Obama was qualified, and if so, how?
The 1%'s primary income is "mainly investment income vs actual income"?
So they just popped out of the womb with a wad of cash, and started buying up companies? Is it possible that they worked up to that by educating themselves, and investing wisely. And don't you think that in the process, they took risks? That's why they call it "venture capital". For that matter, what does it matter how they get a check? Not everyone has to dig ditches to earn a check. It seems to me that the 99s are people who, by fate, bad luck, or by personal flaws, have not been as successful in life as the "1%", and therefore feel that they have been wronged. You seem to have researched Romney's finances pretty well. Have you done the same for Obama? What tax rate does he pay? And again I ask, what do those union bosses make, and what tax rate do they pay at?
Finally, your response to all of my statements or questions seems to be the same: to attack the principles, policies, and character of any conservative that may possibly pose a threat to Obama. How about addressing the issues I brought up? Explain how Obama was even remotely qualified for the job. Justify him throwing half a BILLION dollars at Solyndra, when they knew that it was a losing effort, along with several other tax money handouts to big campaign contributors. Justify his extravagant and multiple vacations while everyone in the country, including yourself, are suffering. Explain his multiple trips for "presidential business" that are really just excuses to campaign or to support union activities, while you and I pick up the tab. In Wisconsin, explain how Walker did such a terrible thing to the public service employees, when prior to his actions, every public service employees was required to pay union dues, yet after he intervened, 70% of them quit paying their dues. Maybe they were tired of paying extortion money to the union thugs to keep their cushy jobs?
You seem to be a very intelligent person. I would like to see intelligent rebuttals to these issues, rather than more vile attacks on Sarah Palin, Romney, and FOX.
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| zzydeco |
Posted - 06/08/2012 : 07:32:18 AM
Are we talking about the same Romney? I could teach a special needs baboon what Romney knows about running this country in 2 weeks. He got where he is because of his inherited wealth. He is what he is today because he was born into wealth. He worked at Bain capital for 10 years and made lots of money as a venture capitalist. He fired lots of folks and likes doing it. Now he is getting 4 million a year in retirement from Bain for the 10 year of "hard work". The only thing he should be proud of he now disavows, Universal health care for his state, the model for Obamacare. What you cite in your last post is a clarification of where the income of the 1% comes from. Mainly from investment income vs actual earnings. I dont have a problem with Romneys millions. I do have a problem with him paying 17% taxes on his income when most of us in the middle class are paying 25%.
Nothing to do with class envy everything to do with fairness.
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| Lookidat |
Posted - 06/07/2012 : 12:54:22 PM
"The gift of gab does not make a competent president" Finally zzydeco, something we can both agree on!! That is EXACTLY what got your idiot elected, along with the liberal media! He is, I agree, an excellent orator. (Then again, so was Hitler) Other than that though, he was completely unqualified for the position, and his lack of leadership has borne that out. He was a freshman senator, with no other experience, who had never held a real job. Yet, he has the gall to say that Romney, who has run successful businesses, and been governor of Mass is not qualified. Am I a Romney fan? NOPE! But, he is certainly more qualified for the position of POTUS, and understands how crucial businesses, big and small, are to our economy.
"Wealthier Americans have assets-in home equity, stocks, and other investments-that generally outstrip their cash outcome" SO WHAT?!? How do you think they GOT those things? They worked and sacrificed, invested wisely, and set priorities, and as a result, they prospered. They didn't get them by selling the hides of welfare recipients, they did it IN SPITE OF having to support those welfare recipients! Yet you and the rest of the 99ers seem to feel that you should be entitled to all of the things that they worked so hard for.
Tell me, you are in banking. Do you not participate in a 401K program. Do you not have any investments? Do you not own a home? Yet, it sounds like these are vile and vulgar expressions of excess when you talk about them.
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| zzydeco |
Posted - 06/07/2012 : 12:29:14 PM
I have never argued that stupid people do not get elected to office from both parties. I think they reflect the makeup of the population in general. Sarah Palin's "ideas" are just feel good drivel for the K-Aid crowd. She does not have a clue about implementing those ideas or the cause/effect that those ideas may have on the economy. I'm for lower taxes but not if I dont have a road to drive on.
Regarding your bosses income. Taxes are paid on net income after all deductions and exclusions. So if you boss in netting a million dollar a year great for him but if he is paying less taxes than you I have a problem.
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| Lookidat |
Posted - 06/07/2012 : 10:33:48 AM
zzydeco, your stats and research are impressive. I don't know what my boss pays in personal taxes, but I know that his business, his livelihood, pays huge corporate taxes. That equates to him making less money, and less money available to fund employee benefits, and bonuses. There is a direct correlation between the profit margin of a corporation, and the health of that corporation, and by extension, the quality of compensation that ultimately reaches the employees, of which he is one. When Obama talks about "rich corporations", he is still talking about those people who are employed by those corporations. For instance, a mega-corp holds say, a half dozen corporations. Each one of those corporations must show a profit to be of value to the mother corporations. If their overhead costs go up because they have to adapt Obamacare, and because as "rich corporations" they have to pay higher taxes, while at the same time, profits are down due to a depressed economy, then who is going to suffer? The employees! The only option they have is to reduce the work force, or reduce the compensation of the existing work force. But not to fear! The UNION will step in and fight them tooth and nail to protect their cash cow, that is the dues paying members. After all, the union leaders (Super Rich) have to protect their own interests. So yet another company becomes insolvent, goes out of business, and now all those employees are out of work.
I hope you are correct about the $250,000 mark, but I haven't heard anything about it. If you can reference an article, I would appreciate it.
As for Sarah, you seem to have all the answers. So if I put you in front of a bank of cameras, under the pressure of intense scrutiny, and gave you a test on geography, science, or anything other subject, you are going to score 100? I don't remember most of the cr@p I supposedly learned in school, does that mean I am incompetent? NO, (although there are plenty of other indicators) I would point out that the Democratic congresswoman from Arizona who was shot, during a committee meeting with top military commanders, asked a 3-star general if while we were waging a war in Iraq, were we doing so in a "green" manner, sensitive to environmental concerns!! Or how about the democratic congressman who asked a general if there was a concern that if we put too many troops on a base in Guam, wouldn't that possibly make the island sink!! Then there is the daily amazement of watching Pelosi and Wasserman talk about stuff that they do not have a clue about. Yet, you can't tolerate Sarah because she missed a geography question! No, you can blow smoke all you want. She scares you and other liberals because she advocates fiscal and personal responsibility, ideas that democrats find repulsive, because it eliminates their ability pander to large segments of their constituency.
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| zzydeco |
Posted - 06/07/2012 : 10:00:29 AM
My comments refer to the super rich. Latest figures show the average yearly income of the 1% is 14 millions. Even under the Dems tax plan the bottom bracket is 1 million as you stated. I bet your boss pays less taxes that most of us. If not, he needs a better accountant. Here is a tidbit I found.
When you look at the disparity in net worth, things look even more skewed. Wealthier Americans have assets — in home equity, stocks and other investments — that generally outstrip their cash income. Average wealth of the top 1 percent was almost $14 million in 2009, according to a 2011 report from the Economic Policy Institute. That’s down from a peak of $19.2 million in 2007.
By contrast, the poorest households were experiencing declines in net worth even before the recession hit. In 2007, the bottom 20 percent of households had an average (negative!) net worth of –$13,800 in 2007, which fell further to –$27,200 in 2009. Altogether, “average wealth of the bottom 80 percent was just $62,900 in 2009 — a dropoff of $40,900 from 2007,” EPI writes. That means the wealthiest 1 percent held an average of 225 times the wealth of the average median household in 2009 — a ratio that was 125 in 1962.
Interestingly, just as Occupy Wall Street is bringing their grievances about this growing gap to a broader public, the Democratic Party is re-adjusting it’s definition of “rich.” As my colleague Lori Montgomery reports, Senate Democrats have ditched President Obama’s plan to raise taxes on households who have more than $250,000 a year for a proposal to tax those who earn more than $1 million a year. Those who have a household income of $250,000 wouldn’t fall in the top 1 percent. But those who have incomes of more than $1 million would.
Any presidential contender that does not know basic world geography scares the hell out of me. The gift of gab does not make a competent president. GW is the prime example of that. Have you seen the movie about her vetting or lack of for VP? That should scare you.
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| Lookidat |
Posted - 06/07/2012 : 09:07:59 AM
zzydeco, if you consider the ultra-rich, like say, oh, Biden, Romney, Ted Turner, etc, then yes, they may be guilty of the alleged crimes. However, to the 99rs, ANYONE making over a million a year is a 1 percenter. I happen to work for someone who falls in this category. I have watched him pour his heart and soul into building a business, starting with him and his brother-in-law, operating from his kitchen table, into a multi-million dollar a year operation, operating throughout the US and Puerto Rico, employing 75 people. On paper, he makes a lot of money, but he has to generate $10,000 to take home $1000. He is comfortable, but far from "rich". He provides good pay and benefits for his people, and treats them very well. Now, if your boy's Health care plan goes into effect, the insurance plan that we have will be lost. Why? Because under that plan, it is more cost effective for him to drop our insurance, and pay the penalties! We will then be forced to get on the government insurance plan, with less coverage, not to mention that then the government controls all aspects of our health care! Then there is my case. Under Obamas plan to pay for the health care act, all household making over $200,000 a year would pay more taxes, because your idiot-in-command believes that that represents "rich" people. WRONG! I would venture to say that there are a lot of families out there in that category that are barely keeping themselves afloat, but then they don't have your financial acumen as you have pointed out before, so that is probably their own fault, not because the government keeps stealing their money to buy democratic votes.As far as the protesters, there may be a small percentage that have a legitimate gripe, but many of them are simply people who want something given to them, many are "chronically unemployed" ie, homeless, drug users, etc, and many of them are PAID by liberal organizations such as ACORN, or whatever they are calling themselves these days. As to Sara, what is it about her that scares you so much? Granted, she ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but she does advocate fiscal common sense, and personal responsibility. What about that scares you so much? Finally, you obviously aren't a FOX fan, so do you blindly gulp down all of the Kool-aid that CNN and MSNBC serve up? I would hope that you can recognize propaganda, regardless of the flavor.
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| zzydeco |
Posted - 06/07/2012 : 07:38:50 AM
you reached the stereotype limit by the third sentence. I'm happy that you have such much faith in the 1%. This country was not built by them, it was built by the small businesses and the middle class. The 1% do not produce anything of value. They are not job creators. I bet the Bain capital has got rid of more jobs that they ever created. They generate wealth by stripping companies of assets and placing them in bankrupcy after stealing all cash they can carry. Any time you can bankrupt a company and steal hundred of millions in assets you are not creating anything but dispair for the ones that invested their time and sweat to create it. Sarah Palin is just a ignorant pair of legs like all the female commentators at Faux News. I think Mccain can attest to that.
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| Lookidat |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 4:38:26 PM
zzydeco, I don't get HBO so I haven't seen the show. But I gotta say that her and McCain couldn't have done any worse than what the current administration, has done. At least with them, I think we would have a better standing in the international community, and more confidence on the part of industry in the country. Like it or not the so-called "1%s" are the ones who generate industry and business, and that employs the majority of the 99%s, that is if they can manage to get to work on time between protests, and collecting their welfare checks. No, I am not saying that 99%s are all worthless, I am saying that if those protesting were to put their energies into something more constructive, they would be better off. And it is documented fact that every time they have one of their protests. the drug and crime rate go up dramatically. If it ain't the 99%s doing it, they sure are hanging out with a bad crowd. The democrats have done a great job of convincing them that their failure to have the American dream is the fault of the 1% that worked their a$$e$ off, to get somewhere, and now they somehow owe the 99% for their success. Yesterday was a clear message that the people are tired of being abused and bullied by unions, and they want everyone to earn what they get or not. Of course the unions don't talk about the months of negotiations that went on when the Governor tried to get them to work out a reasonable compromise, and they refused, confident that they, the union leaders should run the government, not the duly elected governor of the state. Only when he had no choice, did he take away their negotiating authority. Did you know that prior to that, the teachers and all the other public employees were REQUIRED to have their union dues taken out of their checks, BEFORE THEY EVEN GOT THEM! THEY HAD NO CHOICE! Since the actions of Walker, the payment of union dues is optional, and guess what? THOUSANDS OF MEMBERS HAVE QUIT PAYING THEIR DUES! Sounds to me like Walker liberated an oppressed people! By the way, here is an idea. Why don't you research what the top union leaders in this country make, including all of the perks, not to mention what they skim off of illegal scams. I bet you will find that they make as much as, or more than, the people that are being targeted by the protests. Guess the love fest is over........
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| zzydeco |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 2:05:25 PM
I leave for a few weeks and this turns into a love fest. The result in Wisconsin is Money Rules. 39 millions vs 3.9 millions. 24/7 propangada and lies. if you repeat a lie enough its starts to sound truthful. Faux news is the prime example of this. The best part of the Supreme court decision that created this madness is that we are going to be force to correct it or this democracy will fail.
Have you all seen VEEP on HBO? I think they channeling what the SaraH Palin vice presidency would have been.
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| Lookidat |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 09:45:55 AM
marco, I admit that initially I liked Sarah, but the more she talks, the weirder she gets. I know you probably think that I follow FOX blindly, but I really don't. As I mentioned earlier, I have noticed recently that even CNN and MSNBC, who are rabidly liberal, are becoming more critical of Obama, and therefore, in my eyes, they may be trying to save any credibility they may have as a news service. Fox, on the other hand, refuses to acknowledge ANYTHING good about Obama. While I believe he is a lying snake-oil salesman, and has no other goal other than to remain in power, he has done a few decent things, that really should have crossed all political lines. Of course they are overshadowed by his his egotistical so.......t agenda, but then even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then. All I'm saying is, if you are going to represent yourself as a news agency, at least make an effort to remain impartial, and FOX ain't even making that effort. This brings up a question I would ask of the folks here: Is there ANY news agency/network that still maintains an legitimate level of impartiality, and if so, who is it? (Hint: FOX, MSNBC, CNN, ABC ARE NOT EVEN IN CONSIDERATION)
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| marco |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 08:26:08 AM
Lookidat, I think some unions have gotten overzealous with representing workers and have hurt the companies and/or government entities that employ them. These thugs need to go live in China or India (slave labor places) and realize how good they have it here. There are some unions that are moderate and provide a fair representation for workers and are not bad. But I am with you on getting the union thugs out of the way.
Sarah Palin is another story....
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| Lookidat |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 07:42:48 AM
Hey Marco, waddya think of the Wisconsin vote? It looks to me like the public is gettin tired of the union thugs extorting money from them, and fired a warning shot. This can't be good for Obama! You will be happy to know that I just spent two weeks in Alaska, and couldn't find a single person who had anything good to say about Sarah. I believe she has had her 15 minutes, and needs to be sucking up to someone at FOX to keep steady employment.
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| marco |
Posted - 06/05/2012 : 8:28:35 PM
Lookidat, don't worry, Romney is going to blow it. Republicans are good at that. Lol.... If he really wants to win the circus vote, he should pick Sarah Palin. On the other hand, if he really wants a literal landslide, he should pick Donald Trump.
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| hookiemonster |
Posted - 06/05/2012 : 6:29:46 PM
To answer the question without a lot of garbage .....If (thats IF) I had voted for him the first I would not vote to re-elect him. However,I did not vote for him then and I certainly would not vote for him now !!!!!!!!!!
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| Lookidat |
Posted - 06/05/2012 : 1:26:37 PM
Sorry, I've been out of pocket for awhile, spent a couple of weeks in Alaska, great trip!
As to this topic, I agree that Obama is going to stop at nothing to get elected, including trying to give statehood to Puerto Rico! I would love to see Romney pick Condoleeza as his running mate, the liberals won't know whether to wind their watch or pick their nose! If there is any bright spot at this time, I have seen several stories by MSNBC and even CNN that were ALMOST critical of Obama. Now if Romney can just get Trump to keep his mouth shut, and just sign the checks, he may have a chance!
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| Chris V |
Posted - 06/02/2012 : 11:07:01 AM
Lets hope Romney dosen't blow it in the next 5 months. He needs to pick a running mate with some integrity. As it is Obama will be tough to beat. Expect him to pass more controversial legislation to gain votes.
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| JOHN C |
Posted - 05/21/2012 : 10:58:13 PM
Re-electing the 1/2 1/2 would be similar to the Titanic backing up and hitting the same iceberg!!!!!  John Castelluccio, Jr.
OLDER SUV and house, STILL HAVE new boat-'06 Avenger, Semi-retired-'08, soon to get "new-wife" BUT MAY CHANGE MY MIND and THEN 'MIGHT NOT BE' in debt for the rest of my life! Now & 4-ever!!! Been a memeber on R&R since 09-21-1999 |
| Coffeepot Bill |
Posted - 05/21/2012 : 12:42:38 PM
ANYONE BUT THAT 1/2 & 1/2 AFRICAN / PHILIPPIANS GUY ...PRAY FOR THE RESURRECTION OF THE GIPPER ...
 
COFFEEPOT BILL |
| Coffeepot Bill |
Posted - 04/02/2012 : 9:30:34 PM
There is nothing wrong with the man in Washington D.C. ... He has a great value to our nation ...Why not sent him to be the first man on mars... We have lots of used rocket parts and old space capsules to use on him ...
p.s. Twenty five secrete service agents two jets for fifteen fiends of his children to go on spring break in Mexico ... They could not find a clean beach for swimming here on the Gulf Coast ...
COFFEEPOT BILL |
| Lookidat |
Posted - 04/02/2012 : 1:19:01 PM
marco, we do agree on several points. I do believe that corporate greed is rampant, and as to your scenario with the Hispanic crew, that is probably a small businessman simply trying to keep his overhead down. It ain't right, but it is a fact of life. I also believe that Americans have way too high an opinion of themselves when it comes to work. They expect to get top dollar the first day on the job, and have a distorted work ethic. I have a brother who worked offshore for 25 years, and when the economy got tough a few years back, he was laid off for about a year. He refused to get another job, stating that he would rather collect unemployment if he couldn't make $40.00 an hour!
I sincerely hope that this time next year, we are having the reverse image of this debate, and you can tell me how stupid I was to elect that republican president!
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| drreb |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 3:51:11 PM
Suits me marco. BTW, I have one of the largest healthcre systems in the US supporting me in the business side of the practice. But notice that I didn`t tell you that you didn`t understand banking jst because someone not known to you changed the accounting to "mark to market" and caused a bunch of money shifting that actally benifited no one. Things are changing and changing rapidly, don`t you agree? Wewill all have to live with this healthcare mess pretty soon. Hey, I can get healthcare OK. It`s the rest of the US that concerns me.
Now...lets go fishing this summer and have a good time. I too, hate to get serious on a sports website. I`llprobably see you in Empire or Buras this summer. If you see a blue and whit Avenger 25` 6" Coastal center console looking for some fish come help! Peace. doc |
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