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Lookidat
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 Posted - 06/07/2012 : 12:54:22 PM
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"The gift of gab does not make a competent president" Finally zzydeco, something we can both agree on!! That is EXACTLY what got your idiot elected, along with the liberal media! He is, I agree, an excellent orator. (Then again, so was Hitler) Other than that though, he was completely unqualified for the position, and his lack of leadership has borne that out. He was a freshman senator, with no other experience, who had never held a real job. Yet, he has the gall to say that Romney, who has run successful businesses, and been governor of Mass is not qualified. Am I a Romney fan? NOPE! But, he is certainly more qualified for the position of POTUS, and understands how crucial businesses, big and small, are to our economy.
"Wealthier Americans have assets-in home equity, stocks, and other investments-that generally outstrip their cash outcome" SO WHAT?!? How do you think they GOT those things? They worked and sacrificed, invested wisely, and set priorities, and as a result, they prospered. They didn't get them by selling the hides of welfare recipients, they did it IN SPITE OF having to support those welfare recipients! Yet you and the rest of the 99ers seem to feel that you should be entitled to all of the things that they worked so hard for.
Tell me, you are in banking. Do you not participate in a 401K program. Do you not have any investments? Do you not own a home? Yet, it sounds like these are vile and vulgar expressions of excess when you talk about them.
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zzydeco
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Posted - 06/08/2012 : 07:32:18 AM
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Are we talking about the same Romney? I could teach a special needs baboon what Romney knows about running this country in 2 weeks. He got where he is because of his inherited wealth. He is what he is today because he was born into wealth. He worked at Bain capital for 10 years and made lots of money as a venture capitalist. He fired lots of folks and likes doing it. Now he is getting 4 million a year in retirement from Bain for the 10 year of "hard work". The only thing he should be proud of he now disavows, Universal health care for his state, the model for Obamacare. What you cite in your last post is a clarification of where the income of the 1% comes from. Mainly from investment income vs actual earnings. I dont have a problem with Romneys millions. I do have a problem with him paying 17% taxes on his income when most of us in the middle class are paying 25%.
Nothing to do with class envy everything to do with fairness.
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Lookidat
Senior Member
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Posted - 06/08/2012 : 09:21:54 AM
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zzydeco, just for the fun of it, say I concede that Romney got his money by inheritance. He still got elected to lead a state, and has that experience to draw from. What experience or qualifications did Obama have? Do you honestly believe that Obama was qualified, and if so, how?
The 1%'s primary income is "mainly investment income vs actual income"?
So they just popped out of the womb with a wad of cash, and started buying up companies? Is it possible that they worked up to that by educating themselves, and investing wisely. And don't you think that in the process, they took risks? That's why they call it "venture capital". For that matter, what does it matter how they get a check? Not everyone has to dig ditches to earn a check. It seems to me that the 99s are people who, by fate, bad luck, or by personal flaws, have not been as successful in life as the "1%", and therefore feel that they have been wronged. You seem to have researched Romney's finances pretty well. Have you done the same for Obama? What tax rate does he pay? And again I ask, what do those union bosses make, and what tax rate do they pay at?
Finally, your response to all of my statements or questions seems to be the same: to attack the principles, policies, and character of any conservative that may possibly pose a threat to Obama. How about addressing the issues I brought up? Explain how Obama was even remotely qualified for the job. Justify him throwing half a BILLION dollars at Solyndra, when they knew that it was a losing effort, along with several other tax money handouts to big campaign contributors. Justify his extravagant and multiple vacations while everyone in the country, including yourself, are suffering. Explain his multiple trips for "presidential business" that are really just excuses to campaign or to support union activities, while you and I pick up the tab. In Wisconsin, explain how Walker did such a terrible thing to the public service employees, when prior to his actions, every public service employees was required to pay union dues, yet after he intervened, 70% of them quit paying their dues. Maybe they were tired of paying extortion money to the union thugs to keep their cushy jobs?
You seem to be a very intelligent person. I would like to see intelligent rebuttals to these issues, rather than more vile attacks on Sarah Palin, Romney, and FOX.
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zzydeco
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Posted - 06/08/2012 : 10:59:27 AM
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Here is Romneys record as Governor:
1. Ranked 47th in job growth: Despite Romney’s professed expertise in creating jobs, Massachusetts ranked 47th in job growth during his time as governor. The state’s total job growth was just 0.9 percent, well behind other high-wage, high-skill economies in New York (2.7), California (4.7), and North Carolina (7.6). The national average, meanwhile, was better than 5 percent.
2. Suffered the second-largest labor force decline in the nation: Only Louisiana, which was ravaged by Hurricane Katrina in 2005, saw a bigger decline in its labor force than Massachusetts during Romney’s tenure as governor. The US Census Bureau estimated that between July 2002 and July 2006, 222,000 more residents left Massachusetts for other states than came to it. That decline largely explains the state’s decreasing unemployment rate (from 5.6 to 4.7 percent) while Romney was in office, according to Northeastern University economics professor Andrew Sum. At the same time, the nation as a whole added 8 million people to the labor force.
3. Lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs: Massachusetts lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs during Romney’s time in office, according to Sum. The loss was double the rate that the nation as a whole lost manufacturing jobs. In 2004, Romney vetoed legislation that would have banned companies doing business with the state from outsourcing jobs to other countries.
4. Experienced “below average” economic growth and was “often near the bottom”: “There was not one measure where the state did well under his term in office. We were below average and often near the bottom,” Sum told the Washington Post in February. As a result, the state was more comparable to Rust Belt states like Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio than it was to other high-tech economies it typically competes with.
5. Piled on more debt than any other state: Romney left Massachusetts residents with $10,504 in per capita bond debt, the highest of any state in the nation when he left office in 2007. The state ranked second in debt as a percentage of personal income. Romney regularly omits those statistics from his Massachusetts record, instead touting the fact that he balanced the state’s budget (he was constitutionally required to do so). He wouldn’t be much different as president: his proposed tax plan adds more than $10 trillion to the national debt.
I think Obamas credentials stand on their own. I dont think they have classes on how to be president so they are all new to the job. Its the knowledge and humanity that makes the difference. I have said everything that I can say about this. I have enjoyed the political discussion, thanks. here is a link to factcheck to assist you in future postings.
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/obamas-bumbles/
I will give you the last word.
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Edited by - zzydeco on 06/14/2012 11:44:07 AM |
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Lookidat
Senior Member
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Posted - 06/08/2012 : 11:56:09 AM
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1.Obamas record in job creation? NONE
2. Labor Force Decline? Unemployment has only gotten worse since Obama took office.
3.Manufacturing Jobs? Obama has bent over backwards to FORCE corporations to knuckle under to Union Thugs. (See Boeing)
4.Experienced "below average" economic growth? Obamas record, and our current economy sum that up.
5.Piled on more dept than any other state? You can't be serious! Obama has increased the national dept at a rate 10 times higher and faster than in our history!
As far as Obamas credentials, he HAS NONE. His sole claim to fame was that as a junior senator, he was a good orator. Prior to that, he had never held a job in the private sector. As to his credentials since taking office:
1. Tripled our national dept.
2. Given away BILLIONS of OUR TAX DOLLARS in bailouts to his political supporters.
3. Appointed more "CZARS" (Non-elected positions) than any previous president.
4. Used Government agencies to bully political opponents.
5. In conjunction with his cronies, forced a health-care program down the throats of Americans, of whom MORE THAN 55% DO NOT WANT. A program that is already projected to cost twice what they claimed, and that they themselves did not even read, and fail to understand.
6. Continued virtually every Bush policy and practice that he criticized and promised to eliminate when he was running for the office. In some cases he has greatly expanded them.
7. Attempted to spend his way out of dept with the first American Reclamation Act, and in spite of it's obvious failure, now proposes a second round of the same!
I invited you to explain and/or defend the record of your candidate, and your entire response was simply an attack on the opposition. You and yours are resorting to the oldest political ploy there is. When you have no answers, and no good record on which to run, you simply attack the opposition in any way you can. This worked well for him last election, and look what we got. For the sake of our future, I sincerely hope that the voters aren't stupid enough to put him in again.
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Lookidat
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 09:06:00 AM
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Bueller..............Bueller................Bueller............hello, anyone out there? The silence is deafening..............
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